DOT to Fix Rotary on Oxford-Seymour Line

Project, which will be completed in 2015, would make the rotary safer. It is expected to cost about $2.5 million.


The state Department of Transportation has plans to upgrade the rotary at the intersection of routes 188 and 334 near the Seymour-Oxford town line in the year 2015.

And the project is expected to cost about $2.5 million. 

According to a news release issued by Sen. Rob Kane, R-Watertown, the DOT's Office of Engineering wants to make the rotary more "modern." That means it will be designed in a way that forces people to slow down when entering the rotary, according to an article published by the Valley Independent Sentinel, which had many readers complain that the state should be putting its money elsewhere.

“Right now the speeds out there range from 40 to 50 mph,” Susan Libatique, a state DOT engineer and project manager told the Sentinel. “The approaches of a typical roundabout are in the range of about 20 mph.”

Kane, whose 32nd District covers Oxford, said he believes the project will benefit residents of the area. 

“This is an important transportation project for residents in Seymour, Oxford and the entire region, and I am pleased to see it moving forward,” Kane said in a news release. “An upgraded and safer rotary is coming soon, and that’s good news for everyone in the Naugatuck Valley.”

Al October 25, 2012 at 11:40 AM
They want to spend our tax dollars to create jobs. When they have no more tax dollars, they will tax us again.
Tangelene Ramsay October 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM
This is a colossal waste of money! There is nothing wrong with the way the roundabout works now.
Me October 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM
How many long term sustainable jobs does it create? None. Zero. Nada. No one is going to work at this rotary for 30 years, much less put 300 people to work for 30-years. How many short term jobs that employ somebody for 12 months does it create? Who cares? It is short term turbulent employment. They are employed for a year and then they are looking for work again. Tradesmen start working themselves out of a job on day 1 they report to the the project. While it's great they have work and they should, in the big scheme of things it just doesn't do anything for the unemployment numbers because they will revert back to neutral once the project ends. Building our infrastructure, while important, (where needed, and this rotary isn't needed) is the biggest mis-representation of creating "jobs" for our economy. All it does is put such a small market segementation back to work for a such a short period of time, and once the project is complete is does nothing else for creating jobs. Aside from helping out the local materials plant and a few traffic control officers, that is about the extent it does to help the economy. Infrastructure projects just "temporarily" relieve the burden of unemployment and barely puts a scratch into improving the economy. Other than that, in terms of helping the employment sector and the economy - it's worthless.
Anatole Burkin October 25, 2012 at 12:15 PM
I don't get it. This intersection works fine as is.
Bonnie October 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM
I've got to agree with most of these posts. It's not needed! I don't drive 40-50 mph through that area, common sense says the person to your right has the right of way or whom ever gets there first. There are PLENTY of roads that need paved, roads that are ruining everyone's cars. I don't think I'm going to get a tax break because my car isn't worth what I'm taxed on, the roads around here have trashed my car!!! Not to mention, shouldn't we be putting that kind of money into our school system? That would also bring permanent jobs not just temp work, road work is just temporary. This is the craziest idea I've heard of lately, it sounds like the politicians are giving themselves a pat on the back for this BRIGHT idea....
Angela October 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Are they really blaming the rotary for stupid drivers? Classic.
CMG October 25, 2012 at 12:47 PM
There is no need to spend the money if the stupid drivers would obey the signs....the people who come up from down the river think they have the right of way ALL THE TIME...they NEVER yield..they come to the rotary and just drive right through...a rotary works the same way as a stop sign, you approach slowly and the person there FIRST has the right of way...maybe if people truely understood what YIELD means, the state wouldn't have to waste money...people drive live morons these days...i have almost been hit coming down from the church...i start to go and the idiots come up from the river at top speed and don't stop and i am already going into the intersection....learn to drive people!
Will Wilkin October 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Jim Kane, "fiscal conservative," wastes $2.5 million on a perfectly great intersection. Reminds me of the money he repeatedly votes to spend to put pot smokers in jail. A real "small government" guy, offering zero actual leadership or initiatives to address our real problems like widespread long term unemployment, stagnant wages, foreclosures and rising student debt without any new wealth creation on the horizon. National-level problems, hard to fix one state at a time, I admit. And that is the role of the state legislator, to bring back earmarked state money to local projects, needed or not, all the while complaining about the waste of money on poor people's health insurance, public schools, etc., and vowing more fiscal responsibility and fiscal conservatism. It really is a great intersection as is, and although there may have been some, I don't ever recall hearing of a serious accident there. I agree we need to put money into infrastructure and put people back to work in constructive ways. I just wonder if the roof at Quaker Farms or Center Schools would have been a better infrastructure investment.
Craig Zac October 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM
The mentality of drivers around here couldn't handle any change or the roundabout so reinventing the wheel for $2.5 mill. isn't gonna stop anything. My plan will work fine and cost alot less. we can solve the problem simply by sending out an instruction book, with pictures, in the form of a pop up book to all the residents of Oxford / Seymour. We can call it, "Dick and Jane go through a traffic circle", or "Curious George and the Roundabout", Or perhaps a music CD that teaches folks how to use a roundabout, "Alvin and The Chipmunks figure out the Roundabout" or a DVD for our more religious drivers, "Davey and Goliath, Safely through the Roundabout"!
Craig Zac October 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM
I call them Zombies.. they drive like a the way zombies walk... they just go forward till they hit something. i dont really know why cars come with windows anymore.. no one seems to be looking through them anymore.
Rangs October 25, 2012 at 01:15 PM
We voted for a football field that we didn't need (paid for with Oxford's money) so what's the big deal?
Lisa Wildman October 25, 2012 at 01:51 PM
Maybe reminding people of the rules of a rotary would be helpful. I find many people do not Yield when they should. It seems a refresher of rotary etiquette would be helpful. How many accidents have occurred that are warranting these actions? I think a stop light or flashing lights at the Oxford High School intersection would be a more important consideration for the State DOT to focus on. Thank you.
Tom Adamski October 25, 2012 at 02:22 PM
This would be a really stupid waste of money. The intersection works just fine. They want to slow down speeders by putting curves on the approach roads? Didn't DOT just spend 2 mil to straighten a curve on RT 188 near Schribers? If you put curves on the approach, what's to keep the speeders from careening off the road on the curves? Perhaps regular enforcement of speed limits with stiff fines would be cheaper, safer and more effective. There are far more dangerous intersections to spend 2 million on. How about a public hearing on this one?
Craig Zac October 25, 2012 at 02:58 PM
how about we hire a guy who stands in the center and chucks rocks at the ones who speed or dont yield. Or..... we can get an angry, drunken, Homeless man to stand there and angrily shake his fist at them while yelling insults incoherently.
Arek Wenta October 25, 2012 at 02:59 PM
This won't create any jobs long or short term because one of the big established companies will win the bid. What a waste. I'd rather see that money go into repaving some of our roads. Or improving the lighting at certain intersections. Or a number of other things. Petition anyone?
Craig Zac October 25, 2012 at 03:00 PM
seriously though, adding curves to the road wont slow anyone unless they are hair pin curves. I know this because I see how everyone drives up and down the side, curvy, winding, 1-1/2 lane roads in town... I dont think a curve is going to slow anyone down.
Craig Zac October 25, 2012 at 03:06 PM
did they explain why the cost is so much? Are they using only the finest Asphalt imported from the famous Asphalt fields of Italy? are they going to be using bulldozers made of gold? Are we buying the pizza and beer for lunch time? wheres all the $$$ going to? 2.5 just seems like alot of $$ hey, put some speed bumps in the roads just before the roundabout..cheap, effective and low maintenance!!
pa October 25, 2012 at 05:57 PM
Now that is funny.....as funny as fixing this rotary. Station a cop there, there are plenty of places, and pinch the loser drivers....another experience of "gimmee it, its mine" drivers.....
jeb October 25, 2012 at 09:16 PM
Kane should get his head out of the . . . ground! Did he ask the selectmen of the town's. Sure the speed is up there BUT that's because it poses few traffic conflicts. Anybody using it in the morning have and complaints?
Arlene Brooks October 25, 2012 at 11:00 PM
I agree that changing the rotary is a huge waste of money. Has ANYBODY even considered replacing the YIELD signs with STOP signs? Problem solved plus the state will save millions.
Robert Williams October 25, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Good Afternoon, I go through that rotary a lot and it can be a dangerous intersection, especially those folks coming up from the river. Previous posters are correct, they do not realize (or don't care to) know they need to yield/. But I have a much simpler, cost effective solution...put a set of asphalt speed bumps (3 in a row) in front of each entry of the rotary. Make them large humps, paint them with lots of yellow paint, post speed bump signs and be done with it. That will certainly slow traffic down and you could probably complete the project for under $50K.
Craig Zac October 26, 2012 at 11:27 AM
I go through it every day at rush hour on my way home... Sometimes in the morning commute also. While there are alot of knuckle heads who just fly through it without yielding to on coming traffic from the left, I personally havent had any really close calls because if someone is coming into the circle at a fast pace, i will slow my roll and let them go, i dont need to let some yahoo hit me because he either cant be bothered to slow down or doesnt understand roundabouts... my ego doesnt work that way. And i have yet to see any accidents there.
E Twig October 26, 2012 at 01:03 PM
After reading these post people do not know how to drive in one. The person coming from the right does not have the right of way the person in the circle has the right of way.
JYD October 26, 2012 at 02:09 PM
Amen. The biggest danger at the circle aren't people speeding... It's the people that come to almost a complete stop. A car coming from the river and a car coming from the hgh school should be entering the circle at the same time... Not stopping and waiting to see who goes first.
Craig Zac October 26, 2012 at 02:16 PM
i dont think thats the problem.. its the ones who dont stop even when a car is in the circle coming from the left... you have to yield to traffic in the circle on your left. there really shouldnt be a reason to stop when you approach it at the same time, well, unless the car entering to your right is going slower than you. lol
Dmitriy October 26, 2012 at 06:04 PM
I drive through that circle twice or more each day and there are two issues (not frequent but more or less systemic): - drivers who don't know how rotary operates - drivers who don't care how rotary operates The first category either doesn't yield to the cars in the circle or just stops when approaching intersection. Both are problematic. The second category usually approaches intersection at cruising speed and enters it regardless of other cars on the road. This is especially noticeable on approaches where entrance on the circle is a straight path, not a curve. I think what we need is a much cheaper warning signs (make them flashing during the night hours) positioned 200 yards or so before the intersection and then some bamper (does not have to be high - just enough to let drivers to slow down to 25mph) immedeatly before entering intersection. Not expensive, can be fully installed in a day and solves most of the issues.
Rhonda October 27, 2012 at 08:18 PM
OMG!!! Please stop this and don't waste our tax money! $2.5 million?? Are you kidding me? There is constant accidents and deaths on Rt. 67 and we are going to spend this kind of money on the rotary. I haven't heard of any serious accidents there in over 30 years! Are people getting hurt on the grassy center area? I did hear years ago that before the rotary was put in that intersection was called "Dead Man's Corner" so please don't remove it. Try a few reduce speed signs approaching the circle and speed traps to slow people down and don't waste our money!!!
Craig Zac October 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM
lol... On our way home from the movies yesterday (We saw "Cloud Atlas"... Dont waste your $$ like we did!) We came into the roundabout fro the Seymour side and I saw this guy coming from the right and just knew he wasnt going to let me go.. sure enough, he flew straight through with out even touching his breaks. I was in the circle and had to slow down and yield to HIM!!! WTF? All they need to do is put a speed bump on each entrance to the roundabout.. yeah it will stink to have to almost stop and then go over the bump but, its better than spending $2.5 mill! in the economy, wht the heck are they thinking? whos getting paid off? Man this reeks of kick backs. Can we get a third party investigation into this?
Paul Singley October 29, 2012 at 01:40 PM
Craig: We'll do our best. Glad there was no accident and that you and the family are OK.
Craig Zac October 29, 2012 at 11:35 PM
thanks Paul.... i just dont see the need to spend 2.5 mill to slow people down... speed bumps will do fine (although be a PITA at times) but if folks cant get it through their heads that they need to obey the traffic laws and be careful while driving, these things will happen.


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