Himes: 'No Civilian Needs a Gun With A Magazine that Holds 30 Bullets'

Oxford's representative in the U.S. Congress issued a statement Tuesday about gun control measures being discussed by federal representatives.


U.S. Rep. Jim Himes, D-Greenwich, issued the following statement today in response to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy’s (D-VT) announcement that his committee will soon take up several gun violence prevention measures, including legislation to institute universal background checks and to reinstate the assault weapons ban:

“While I am encouraged by the news that the Senate will soon begin considering bills to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and help improve safety in our schools and communities, I am angry that the House has yet to take any steps towards sending gun violence prevention measures to the President’s desk. Over two months after Newtown, it is long past time for Congress to get to work making the common-sense changes that will help ensure such an awful tragedy never happens again.

 “No civilian needs a gun with a magazine that holds 30 bullets. No one who wants to own a gun should be able to hide their criminal record behind a loophole. And no parent should be forced to raise their mentally ill child without the mental health services they need. While I am disappointed with the delay, I remain firmly committed to reducing gun violence. In the coming weeks, I will continue doing everything I can to bring my colleagues from both sides of the aisle together to get this job done.”

Richard Poulton February 26, 2013 at 06:45 PM
Just another elected official that has no clue as to what to do. I don't own a gun, but if I want to do so, and I have appsolutely no criminal history or any mental defects I should be able to do so as provided in the Constitution. That includes using a magazine with 30 rounds. As to his comment of the loop holes, where and what are they? Other then providing legislation to prohibit any private sales, of which I agree on, if a criminal wants to get a gun he will. It's you and I that have to jump thru hoops to get one. Not one of these so called new laws will ever prevent an act like Sandy Hook from happening again, nor will it reduce gun violence in the cities. Hey, Himes, take your head out of the sand and do something constructive not just going along for the ride on the Obama train.
Ajent Oranje February 26, 2013 at 06:46 PM
Hey Himes, its not up to YOU to decide what we need. The Constitution doesnt give us our rights, its a piece of paper that LIMITS GOVERNMENT from infringing on our rights. Who are you to say someone doesnt need an AR to defend their families? Are you going to guarantee our safety, and if you dont succeed, we can sue you for millions of dollars? If not, then STFU and stop violating the Constitution.
Ajent Oranje February 26, 2013 at 06:51 PM
I agree with most of what you said except for the private sales part. Law abiding citizens shouldnt need the government watching over our shoulders over every private sale. It hasnt been the problem in any of the mass shootings. Friends should be able to sell to friends, grandparents and parents should be able to hand down rifles to descendants without paperwork. Its already illegal to sell firearms to someone who shouldnt own one, so if in doubt, you do a background check. Responsible gun owners already do this. Why should a 75 yr old widow have to file paperwork to sell her dead husband's M1 Garand from WW2? If it was a widespread problem, I would agree, but its not. We already have laws on the books for straw purchasers, we just need to enforce them, and more strictly.
JYD February 26, 2013 at 07:06 PM
If Himes or a family member was the victim of a home invasion or violent attack,. I don't think he would be so quick to make generalizations of what people need or don't need for protection. Worry about punishng the bad guys instead of stripping those of us obeying the law of our right to defend ourselves as we see fit.
Richard Poulton February 26, 2013 at 07:18 PM
Nick, what I meant by the requirement for the private sales was the fact that if you purchase a firearm, all paper work done as required, and down the road you sell that gun to someone, they inturn sell it or it is stolen, recovered and traced who will it come back to? - YOU. And what guarintee do you have that the buyer does not have a felony conviction you may not know about. So by allowing privates sales to go on, but with paper work to follow the sale(s), we are actually protecting ourselves down the road. I can attest to this fact. Many, many, so many times we traced recovered guns back to original buyer, who just said he sold it and had no record beyond that point. There is no "big brother" looking at anyone.
Richard Poulton February 26, 2013 at 07:33 PM
This is actually a response to your other comment Nick. How do you know if that person you are selling to has the legal right to own? You, the private citizen can't do a back ground check. Only a licenced FFL dealer can, that's called a NICS check or in some usages E-Check. Or the PD if a permit is being requested. I said it above, there is no way you can know the criminal history of even a good friend. All this does is protect each owner down the line as gun changes hands. It's also not a big deal to bring the gun to an FFL and he does all the paper work, nothing for grandma too do. As to any straw purchases laws. Try getting that information. Very hard to prove someone had purchased a gun, and then re-sold it. Many times the buyer will say it must have been stolen, haven't seen it in awhile. How do you prove it was a straw sale. Now, if the law required re-sale paper work and it wasn't done then the authorities have muscle for a case. By the way most straw cases derive from undercover work and take a real long time.
Jenn G February 26, 2013 at 08:26 PM
I find it funny that eveyone keeps talking about keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. Adam Lanza was not a criminal until he killed his Mother. The second he pulled that trigger, he became a criminal. His mother obtained those guns legally. She was not a criminal. There is NO REASON in the world (beside those in the military) for anyone to own a gun that can hold 30 rounds. Everyone who talks about their Constitutional Rights being violated is just ridiculous. When that was written, people were protecting their land and homes from Indians and they did not have semi-automatic's. Can another school shooting happen? Absolutely. Can it be prevented? No one can say for sure. We need to make schools safer. There needs to be training on how to handle, help, spot, and report anyone who may act in a way that would warrant investigation. Allowing people to own guns they don't need will not help. Just remember, every school shooter was not a "CRIMINAL WITH A GUN" until they walked into their school and started shooting. So getting guns out of the hands of criminals has no bearing on school shootings. Anyone every wonder why school shootings do not occur in low income areas?
SteveW February 26, 2013 at 08:32 PM
@Richard Poulton It sounds like at least part of your reasoning for a law that requires a background check for private sales is to protect the seller. I don't believe this is the place of the legal system. If a seller is concerned about the background of the person they're selling to, they should do their due diligence and check for themselves. Personally I won't sell a long gun to anyone I do not know very well unless they have a pistol permit. In that case, I fill out all the forms and request an authorization number from DPS just as if it was a long gun. For close friends and relatives I do not get an authorization number and skip some of the paperwork, but I still fill out a DPS-3-C for each of us. We do not need more laws to protect us from ourselves. If someone is too stupid to CYA, then they deserve whatever comes their way.
JYD February 26, 2013 at 08:45 PM
Your rebuttal is among the most ludicrous that I've seen. Following your train of thought, that would make every law abiding citizen a potential criminal in virtually every day-to-day activity. Maybe we should reinstate prohibition because every adult in the USA is a potential drunk driver. Perhaps the kitchen and sporting goods sections at Target and Walmart should be put behind lock and key so the sale of steak knives and baseball bats can be regulated. Why in the world would anyone need a knife longer than four inches, so we'll ban all those, too, because you never know what might happen. Sorry, Jenn, but you have zero right to tell me what I need or don't need. Have you been the victim of a home invasion? Have you huddled on the bedroom floor with no protection and your arms around your loved ones praying to god the police heard your whispered 911 call while invaders are in the hallway outside your bedroom door? Could you really live with yourself if someone died simply because you couldn't adequately defend yourself? I hope to god that you, Chris Himes, or anyone else never has to live through such an experience. Your tune would change very quickly.
Me February 26, 2013 at 08:51 PM
Determined people with harmful intentions will find a way to commit harm in spite of what is available to them. Remove all guns you want, if their intent to harm they will find a way via a different mechanism - home made bomb, vehicular, other weapons, etc. Banning guns completely or in part will not resolve keeping our general public any safer from people determined to inflict harm on them. Personally, I do not own a gun, not a NRA member, and never considered owning gun until that tragic December day. Since then, I am strongly considering becoming a gun owner in the (god-willing) unlikely event that should anything ever occur around me so that I may have the means to defend myself (and my family) instead of going down helplessly.
Ajent Oranje February 26, 2013 at 10:41 PM
Yes Poulton, you know even of your best friend if they have a criminal record or not. I beg to differ on that. I dont know who you hang out with, but not a single one of my HS classmates has a felony record. The bottom line is, most law abiding citizens hang out with and run in circles with people who are 100% eligible to own a weapon. Its VERY rare for people to sell guns to criminals without knowing, thats just the facts, Less than 4% of guns sold legally in private sales were used in a crime. Lets be honest, we can all tell who the sketchy people are, whether its tattoos all over or pants hanging off your tail. Private citizens should not have access to NICS...because now we are opening up Pandora's Box with invasion of privacy. Like I said, law abiding citizens already do, do the paper work for firearms transfers. You are protecting yourself in doing so...but you're responsibility only ends with that direct sale. If you sold legally to a straw buyer, a background check still wouldnt prevent that sale. Like you said. We dont need any more stupid laws that do not work that only hinder law abiding citizens. I just recently purchased a firearm in a private sale. Had I gone through an FFL dealer, I would've had to pay at least $40 and wait 2 weeks. Screw that BS. CT laws are terrible and ignorant. Another stupid law... you cant buy any AK-47 chambered in 7.62 (the standard)....yet its legal if its chambered in the more powerful 5.56 or 5.7. Does that make any sense to you?
Ajent Oranje February 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Absurd post. You obviously dont know what the 2nd Amendment was created for. It has nothing to do with hunting. There is indeed a reason in the world to own a gun that can hold 30 rounds. To protect yourself....from tyranny...which by definition, is anyone wanting to impose their will on you....whether its a street gang in a flash mob, or rioters in the streets wanting to loot your store (LA Riots, Korean store owners protected their stores with AR's), or a home invasion by 3-5 rapists, and yes... as a last resort, tyranny and oppression by our government. You can scoff, but you obviously didnt learn about the gold confiscation and the US citizens thrown into internment camps in WW2 by FDR, Tuskegee experiments, Athens, TN revolt, Ruby Ridge and Waco. Our government doesnt exactly have a stellar record of of not violating our Constitutional Rights in the last 80 years. We can cite many more examples going back further, but I think you get the point now. And FYI, we do get training on how to handle these weapons. Educate yourself. On average, private citizens go to the shooting range more than law enforcement.
Ajent Oranje February 26, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Well said Steve. My sentiments exactly.
Thomas Reed Wargo February 27, 2013 at 05:28 AM
What does anyone think about legal gun owners carrying openly??? I think a criminal would think twice if they saw a gun strapped to your side. Connecticut is an open carry state but is not well accepted to do so.
Joe Blow February 27, 2013 at 05:52 AM
Himes statement "No Civilian Needs a Gun With A Magazine that Holds 30 Bullets", is EXACTLY why the second amendment exists. It's to protect the citizens from the gubbmint.
Roc February 27, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Says who. We can say no civilian needs to drive BMW or cars that for over 50 mph. Dictatorship doesn't belong in America.
Richard Poulton February 27, 2013 at 12:43 PM
@Nick & SteveW. I spoke with my FFL friend last night and I stand corrected as to a civilian having access to the NICS system. Yes you can. After all checks are made the seller will get an authorization number that should be maintained. And as Steve mentioned the Sale & Transfer form should be made out. All weel and good for those that want to to it right, but what about the private sale that is just that a private sale, no checks, no forms, nothing. Such will never be prevented. All in all this was a good conversation. You have a good day. Must be off, my turn w/ the 93 yr old mother.
Jenn G February 27, 2013 at 01:37 PM
JYD, Yes, by all means ban all knives and bats because everyone is walking around stabbing and hitting each other. Common sense needs to be used. And yes, my family has been hit by violence. My cousin was killed while walking out of his dorm. A man, who was licensed to carry a gun, was shooting at his wife, missed her and hit my cousin. Is that enough violence for you? He was 21 and going to school to be a doctor. Life over, just like that. But please, don't pay any attention to the innocent people murdered everyday, just as long as people can own things they have no good reason to own. Nick - do you live in Oxford? How many riots are going on? If you are so against this government, move to another country and see how that works out for you. What is the statistic for home owners getting killed with their own guns? If you have children in your home, I would hope the gun is locked up. (Oh wait, Nancy Lanza had her's locked up, how did that work out?) If that is the case, do you have time to get out your gun when your house is raided by these band of bandits that are roaming the streets of Oxford? Again,common sense needs to be used. Also, you made a comment that people with tattoos and pants hanging off are sketchy. Really? So, you stereo-type people too? Tattoos and clothing do not make the person. You should stop judging people on how they look and consider what is on the inside. Children are dying everyday by legally and illegally owned guns. How do you stop that?
Tom Marshall February 27, 2013 at 09:55 PM
Every day lonely people go online looking for friendship or love. Sometimes they hook up with some nut and end up dead. We've all heard of this happening. I say for the good of the people [ and the children ] we should ban computers. Lets face it, when the the Founding Fathers gave us freedom of speach they could have never envisioned the internet. OK so computers don't kill people,people kill people.However it is so much easier to just do away with computers.
Dave February 28, 2013 at 04:30 PM
Here are the laws for buying guns that already exist. Do we need any more? http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&Q=494616&desppNav_GID=2080&desppNavPage=|
Dave February 28, 2013 at 04:40 PM
Private sales are very easy you fill out the form DPS-3-C call the department of public safety they issue a sales transaction # and then send in the forms as directed. Just like selling your car with a bill of sale. The DPS will tell you whether to allow the sale or not. This must be done at all gun shows as well there is no loop hole. that is a lie.


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