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Oxford Sports May Move to Naugatuck Valley League

The school will try to get out of the South-West Conference and into the NVL for next season.

 

Oxford High School athletic teams could be playing opponents such as Naugatuck, Derby and Seymour next year rather than the likes of Pomperaug, Newtown and Brookfield.

That’s because the Oxford Board of Education voted unanimously Tuesday to accept a committee’s recommendation that OHS apply for acceptance into the Naugatuck Valley League. Currently, Oxford plays in the South-West Conference

A driving force behind the move, according to supporters, is that Oxford is a small school and will have an opportunity to compete against more similar-sized schools in the NVL. The SWC has several large schools and thus more student-athletes, school board members said.

“Moving to the NVL from the SWC is not going to mean that Oxford student-athletes aren’t going to have some really long days,” said school board member Gerard Carbonaro, who spearheaded a discussion about the move.

“I’ll be proud of our kids if they compete favorably in that league,” he said. “But I know as adults, I think it’s our job and our responsibility to put these kids in the best position to succeed. The fact that the NVL has eight schools that have populations within 300 students of Oxford - and the SWC only has four - makes a big difference.”

The move is not a done deal. The NVL still has to accept Oxford. If accepted, Oxford teams whose sport is not offered in the NVL, such as boys’ volleyball, would continue to play in the SWC. Board members say the move would have no negative impact on current sports teams.

The high school has been competing in the SWC since opening to students in 2007. Board Chairwoman Paula Guillet said that the move to the NVL is a good not only because of the chance to play smaller schools, but also because NVL schools are closer, thus cutting down on commute times and travel expenses. And she said people in Oxford, many of whom attended Seymour High School before Oxford had a school, want to see league competition between Seymour and Oxford.

Committee member Dave Yish, a former selectman, said he anticipates better attendance at games that are closer.

“It should help with pride and morale for our students,” he said.

And committee member Bill Hovan said many parents have expressed concerns about not being able to attend games that are too far away.

Love the move to the NVL? Hate it? Take our poll here and tell us how you feel in comments.

Dad November 16, 2012 at 01:42 pm
Johnny
This is off the top of my head. Will the NVL be easier? In some sports yes and others no. Some years yes, others no. But the NVL has no Boys Volleyball team so that team gets left out to dry. Wrestling and Girls XC almost 1/2 of the NVl does not have a team. So inistead of playing against 16 schools or so you are now playing against 6-7 and some of those NVL schools that have teams barely can fill team. Boys XC 3-4 NVL schools don't have a team. 63 kids from the SWC went to the State Opens in XC vs 5 from the NVL, 2 teams in the SWC were top 3 in the staet and 6 in New England. If they don't have an XC team that most likely means their tracks teams will be very small too or the 4 distance events will not be covered. That is 20% of the meet. Swimmng, Cheerleading also have fewer teams to compete against. You have a 1 in 16 chance of winning the SWC now in some sports in the NVL the chances are 1 in 8 or less. Techinally that makes it easier. Basketball and Football will probably struggle. In football you lose 2 you have no shot at states, Basketball you are looking at probably 8 losses guaranteed. Plus in hoops the NVL plays no out of league games. I don't know enough about the Baseball and Softball teams in the NVL but I am sure there are some good teams and terrible ones too. I am sure the Waterbury schools are not good in baseball and softball. The main reason for the SWC is that every school covers just about every sport and the NVL does not.
Dad November 16, 2012 at 01:45 pm
Plus the NVL has tennis and golf and OHS does not. Will OHS now have to try to field those teams as well? Where will the facilities and money come from? Where will the kids come from?
Dad November 16, 2012 at 01:50 pm
The major problem with the move it that is would told to the coaches, student-athletes, and parents that they would be polled, have a say to decide where to go. Some coaches were polled some were not. No parents or student-athelets had a say. It was something like Oxford typically tries to do, make changes when no is watching and only having a few get their say. We just had an election what a great way to teach soon to be voters how to vote, poll, etc. If the OHS community had a say and the SWC or the NVL won there would not be this much uproar. Trying to do it when 3 members were absent, the public, athletes, coaches, parents did not know is wrong. In talking with most of the kids at OHS, most want to stay. Everyone says do it for the kids, so then why aren't we?
Johnny Ribbs November 16, 2012 at 03:33 pm
Dad - No boys volleyball is true, we don't have that. Seymour has a wrestling team and seems to fill a schedule up every year, swimming too. Just fyi Holy Cross fields a lacrosse team, Watertown hockey, etc.....I think Amity HS has a ski team (not NVL, but I don't think any school in any conference has their sports line up perfectly).
Agreed on the XC and Track fronts as well....much bigger part of SWC land than NVL land. Cheerleaders from Seymour and Oxford both seemingly win some type of competition every single year, so I don't see that being a big issue. I see your logic that hanging banners in a few areas will become mathematically easier. (Behind the scenes though isn't that exactly the reason driving this decision?) Football (in my humble opinion) will have about the same outcome (though the possibility of a "valley" division sounds great to this valley guy). Derby thought a few years back they would march into the NVL from the SCC and have great success. This year was Derby's first winning season in the NVL. Basketball will be rough. NVL is arguably the best conference in the state at the top of the league. FYI (currently) both Basketball and Baseball (and football) allow for ONE out of conference game per year. The Basketball schedules are weighted to give an easier road to the suburban schools in hoops.
Outsider November 16, 2012 at 10:42 pm
It all comes down to the kids !
So ask your kids this. If there are two Buses gased up and running side by side, one was marked Joel Barlow the other one was Seymour. Which one would your kid get on?
DougT November 16, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Dad, you are a LIAR!!! and a CRYBABY that is stooping beyond LOW because you didn't get your way!!! I have attended BOE meetings and talked to members of the committee that studied this issue. They did their homework! Nothing was done in secret! That is BS! Their meetings are scheduled in advance and held in PUBLIC! Agendas are posted, minutes are filed! If three members are absent, business still is conducted and they don't vote. No student/parent poll was promised. All coaches were given the opportunity for input. The Board of Education has to make many tough decisions and they can't please everyone. They had to look at what was best for all the sports not just Cross Country. If you wanted your opinion heard you should of taken the time to show up at a meeting and give it!
DougT November 16, 2012 at 11:46 pm
And Mr. Patch, I was told you were given a copy of the committee's report immediately after the meeting on Tuesday night. When are you going to share the facts with your readers???
Tanya Carver November 17, 2012 at 01:07 am
DougT. Stephen Brown, BOE member, posted a comment Thursday evening asking if anyone wanted a copy of this, he mentioned he would forward it. I did ask for it early this morning, have not received it. I am confident if Paul has something he would certainly posted on the site. Do you have a copy, since it sounds like you have been at these meetings?
Mike November 17, 2012 at 02:06 pm
I moved from Fairfield County to the Valley over 30 years ago, My work takes me all over the state. You will not find a more genuine ,down to earth, person than you will in the Valley. Oxford is part of the valley and while some don't want it to be, it always will be. At times, I'm embarassed to say I live in Oxford. There is nothing wrong with the NVL. It's a fact that a long bus ride can have an effect on the athletes. Just ask any coach. Remember that the buses cannot use the parkway. I would love for Oxford to get back to it's roots, and start to heal the damage it has done to it's neighbors. All the kids in the neighboring towns get along great, It's the adults in Oxford that have an issue.
Stephen C. Brown November 17, 2012 at 02:08 pm
I provided a scanned copy to Mr. Singley so that he could provide it to readers here. I don't have an email address for you Tanya and I wouldn't want folks to put that out in a public forum like this. My home number is listed so feel free to call me at 203-888-4599 and leave your email address on voicemail if you don't get me. This document could also be available at BOE office.
Tanya Carver November 17, 2012 at 02:12 pm
Stephen, my email is tanya.carver@pb.com
Tanya Carver November 17, 2012 at 02:13 pm
Thank you
Paul Singley (Editor) November 17, 2012 at 08:44 pm
I posted a copy of the report that the board saw on Tuesday night. Thanks
Johnny Ribbs November 18, 2012 at 05:32 am
One other totally theoretical point and advantage to the NVL. Early talk about where Oxford would fit in division wise has the "experts" saying a 3 division NVL could emerge from the Oxford add.
What does that mean to you Oxford folk? Well it could mean that being in a division with Seymour, Woodland, Derby and Ansonia. That means that you would play those teams every year guaranteed in football and home/away every year in most other sports. So trips to Danbury, Fairfield and Weston to meet up with your Patriot Division rivals would be out the door. Would you perhaps have to go to St. Paul in Bristol or Torrington every other year in some sports? Sure. But fyi....Seymour has NEVER played St. Paul in football yet in the four years since St. Paul joined up.
Tanya Carver November 18, 2012 at 01:35 pm
Johnny Ribbs, thank you for the information given above. It sounds as though you are in the NVL and know your football. After reading the committee's report, the travel cost seems to be a factor. A couple of questions for you: 1)how many games does Seymour play in a given season? # home vs # away 2)Which is the farthest town Seymour has played? Thank you.
Tanya Carver November 18, 2012 at 03:04 pm
DougT, I am going to disagree with your statement: "no student/parent poll was promised", here's last year's election promise from some of the BOE members: “Let's Start With Listening” …significant community involvement is a critical first step in building the consensus and trust that we need to tackle our educational challenges. We will begin by listening to you. The concerns of all stakeholders need to be part of the agenda and help to inform the educational direction that we take together, as a community.”
I am confident that the BOE will review all public input and make the best fiscal decision for our town as to not increase our expenses but decrease them. For those of you who would like an opportunity to voice your opinion, on Tuesday November 27 at 7pm in the media center at OHS there will be a Board of Ed meeting to further discuss the possible league change.
Tanya Carver November 18, 2012 at 03:39 pm
To disgusted parent, here's the minutes from the Nov 13th BOE meeting:
"Old Business: The Athletic League Committee Report – Chair P. Guillet reports that after hearing many concerns from parents and coaches regarding fair competition due to the size of the schools in the Southwest Conference, the athletic conference we are currently participating in, the Board formed a committee to study the matter. Our Athletic league committee consists of Board members Paula Guillet, Lisa Hellauer, Gerard Carbonaro and William Neary. William Hovan and David Yish were also added as parents from our community. The charge was to gather information and establish criteria in the best interest of the children of Oxford when it comes to athletics and study the matter in regards to both the Southwest Conference and the Naugatuck Valley League and make a recommendation to the full Board. Our Athletic Director, Joe Stochmal gathered input from all the head coaches and was interviewed by the committee. Former Asst. Principal and A.D. Glenn Lungarini, OHS Principal Frank Savo, Interim Superintendents Connelly and Reed, Superintendent, Tim Connellan and many parents also gave their opinion on the matter."
Johnny Ribbs November 18, 2012 at 04:38 pm
Tanya - Seymour played 10 games total this year (and every year unless like 2013 and 2014 there is an allowed 11the game. For that 11th game for the next 2 years Seymour will be playing Amity HS of Woodbridge, a pretty good old rivalry from our years in the Housatonic League. Rivalry. Tradition. History. Good stuff.).
This year Seymour traveled to Municipal Stadium in Waterbury (a lovely facility the majority of Waterbury schools play their football and soccer games at) to play Kennedy. Seymour also played at Ansonia (literally a 5 minute drive), at Crosby HS of Waterbury, at Watertown HS (the furthest drive in 2012) and will play Thanksiving Eve at Woodland HS (10 minutes). Watertown HS is 18.2 miles from Seymour HS, and an estimated 28 minute drive). Seymour football has never traveled to St. Paul and hasn't been up to Torrington in more than four years. In hoops and baseball we currently have to travel to those two outlying school once every other year.
Tanya Carver November 18, 2012 at 05:00 pm
Johnny, thanks for the information. I hear you, about the rivalry and tradition. I am a Seymour Graduate and really enjoyed the football games, it was unheard to miss a game. In the early 1980's, we had a great football team. Not sure how Seymour is doing now, have not followed since I graduated. What's your year?
Tanya Carver November 18, 2012 at 05:06 pm
Btw, if you see Coach Mike, do say hi, he was my classmate :)
Justin Che Wilkin November 18, 2012 at 06:44 pm
Kathie: Oxford Sports have the right to move anywhere they want according to the cars traveling for popular sport areas.
Justin Che Wilkin November 18, 2012 at 11:29 pm
I don't think I'll ever get good at swimming, man.
Paul Singley (Editor) November 19, 2012 at 01:18 pm
Gerard Carbonaro posted this letter to the editor defending move to NVL http://oxford-ct.patch.com/articles/letter-to-the-editor-school-board-member-defends-move-to-nvl
Dad November 19, 2012 at 02:26 pm
He said the coaches voted for the move 2-1. If you elimiate the coaches that coach more than 1 sport at OHS, there are 15 head coaches on the staff. That would mean 10 to 5 would have voted in favor of the move. In talking with the kids and other coaches there is no way this happened. Someone is not telling the truth, either kids, coaches, BOE members somebody. Is there a way you can post a list of which coach voted for what league? Happens all the time in Congress. If it is indeed 10-5 then so be it.
Jenn G November 19, 2012 at 05:43 pm
Jerry,
I think it is rude and inconsiderate of you to say that playing in the NVL is dumbing down. Who says the NVL is less competitive then the SWC? Those kids play just as hard as the kids in the SWC. Have a little respect for the players and coaches in the NVL.
Pearl November 19, 2012 at 08:32 pm
Yeah post which coaches voted for it so all these judgemental people that don't want to play against the low class NVL can start planning how to get them fired or force them into leaving somehow. If these kids really love the sports they play it shouldnt matter who they play against
concerned November 21, 2012 at 03:56 am
Your rant is not helpful and it diminishes your credibility. The BOE minutes have been published and they clearly show that the Board went from "considering" to a "done deal" (per G. Carb) with very little or no public discussion.
Paul Singley (Editor) November 27, 2012 at 03:06 am
Three Bridgeport schools may make the move to the NVL as well - http://oxford-ct.patch.com/articles/three-bridgeport-schools-discuss-joining-the-nvl
Paul Singley (Editor) December 11, 2012 at 04:43 pm
Stop the presses: the school board may revote on this one http://oxford-ct.patch.com/articles/school-board-could-once-again-discuss-sports-leagues
Paul Singley (Editor) February 24, 2013 at 11:01 pm
Oxford has officially been accepted into the NVL http://oxford-ct.patch.com/articles/oxford-accepted-into-naugatuck-valley-league

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